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October 15th, 17 12:11 PM Bandit Keith
Well never seen that one but I hear it has a over arching plot going on in the background that isn't noticed unless you look for it but that could for all I know be fans trying to justify their love with a cartoon when they don't need to jusitfy why they like something when its a cartoon like that
October 15th, 17 12:05 PM devilsnevercry
I won't argue that either there are some very successful self contained episode shows even today. For the modt part though even shows that seem silly (adventure time) have always or for the most part had a weird explorable background to the world. For the most part it's just the trend in modern entertainment.
October 15th, 17 11:58 AM Bandit Keith
I would argue the mater of the most succeful shows being all like that true its a rule of thumb and generally is true but some series with self contained stories are among the most successful series out there with just maybe a tiny bit of cuntiulity going on. I can piont to two examples of this being true in this era off the top of my head
October 15th, 17 11:48 AM devilsnevercry
Self contained stories are fine but it's true the most successful shows all have longer over arching plots that encourage you not to miss an episode. As for the nihilism is cool thing.... I don’t think many people actually look at it that way allot of people say the show makes them uncomfortable and challenges them. I think many people are looking at nihilism and wondering how the hell can someone think that way. Nihilism is a philosophical thought process given popularity by the works of H.P Lovecraft. Nihilism is upsetting too people because at the end of thr dsy if god really doesn't exsist and morality is reaaly just man made everything is pointless. The idea that in the grand scheme of the universe we don't mean anything is a challenging thought. I was nihilistic long before rick and morty came out though so I find it enteresting fir the how to gain such a cult following.
October 15th, 17 11:36 AM Bandit Keith
Yeah thats true Sundial the show just needs to be decent to stand up on its own with very little gimmicks and what gimmicks they have don't beat you over the head with the gimmicks .
October 15th, 17 11:30 AM Sundial
Eh. I don't think shows need a gimmick to do well. I can't wait for people to just grow out of the whole 'nihilism is cool' thing. I think another issue with Rick and Morty is that there are a good portion of the fanbase that don't like it for the dark humour, just taking the cheap jokes about Pickle Rick and Szechuan sauce.
October 15th, 17 11:27 AM Bandit Keith
Self contained stories are good Devilnevercry you just need them to be decent , Heck alot of the old self contained story based sitcoms are still enjoyed for the fact they still have charm and the humor or story was good yet alot of the newer ones was dumber or lacking substance . It seems the laugh tracks was what really killed sitcoms before streaming sites even existed because some many makers used them at a piont that the new inexperienced writers and show runners had no clue what they was doing and believed laugh tracks would keep the show afloat but the laugh tracks barely did that if ever .
October 15th, 17 10:35 AM devilsnevercry
Netflix inadverntently brought about the death of american sitcoms much like many other things. The issue is with modern streaming and recording sodtware why would you watch unrelated 1 episode stories even south park realised continuing with that formula will eventually kill them. Modern cartoons need a hook be that dark adult humor and philosophical nihilism like( rick and morty) or strange background mysteryies (gravity falls) or emotionally charged socio political allogories (steven universe) these show work because there's something gripping about them adults will love and things carry over episode to episode more long overarching plots ect.
October 15th, 17 07:21 AM Bandit Keith
Diagla you may want to clarify what my little pony you are talking here as the current Gen had a two part opener in one of the seasons that had some Marxism thing going on brainwashing ponies and even had one of those sterotypical reprograming building set ups . So yeah MLP has in canon went sorta dark for a cartoon of its type in afew cases in the cartoon while the comics has had some darkish elements
October 15th, 17 06:37 AM Dialga
If you want the ultimate combination of cringe, grimdark, and preachiness, watch the latest season of American Horror Story.
  
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