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Oh and for prior to Super we never got any manga proof that Goten or Pan was born without tails , it was only said in the anime about lacking tails being a receding Gene, So I have another question to ask . I was wondering how do you feel about GT Pan having had the tail removed early on in her life?

I guess Avatar or Treasure Planet would have more options. What would you want to do there?

So they want her to unlock the transformation ? Just asking so I understand what you want for sure

Also you never aswnered on when I said this in a older post

'' takes it a step further to find as'' meaning what? Just asking what you meant there as I assume you mean to get a better handle on a Super form by seeing how the energy is unlocked or something. Anyway yeah Pan never truly went SS in GT she went close to it but never quite got their

Yes you see what I was getting at now man on the attack matter

See that's true but I was pointing out the fact power and such isn't a means you'd live aswell as how weaker things can beat a stronger one given the chance.

Then we also have Krillian disk attack which has been stated in canon to cut anything .

Their was also the canon matter where Goku was killed by a freaken weak ass laser shot aswell in DBS Super from being a idiot.

I said contradictions man the maker of the series has made far too many

While Devilman is this dude http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Spike_the_Devil_Man and when the maker of the manga says if the Devilmite beam would even graze people like Frieza and those more powerful in varies interviews over the years its fact , its even canonly stated how the devilmite beam works is from how bad a person is the more damage it does

Thing is if you watch the series and pay attention its clearly not all power in ability's. Even if Db's creator claims it. He has left so much evidence countering that claim throughout his work I pick thinks that make the best sense out of the contradictions that's in the whole thing. As DB/DbZ and DBS hold a lot of contradictions to what the series creator has said is this or that. I understand why given how long the thing has run but still.

Add to that Devilman from the original DB had been confirmed by the creator saying could easily kill beings like Frieza and other 'big bads' with that one ability of his that makes the 'evil' or ' bad Karma' of a person cause the damage to be more and more powerful the worse the person has been even though Devilman is very,very weak himself.

Well I was going with Speed doesn't relate to power . I mean really Krillin had shown speed in flight going way past people stronger then him . So I tend to attribute flight speed to 'skill' 'talent' , 'aptitude/effinity' and experience being the factors in Dragon Ball flight speed not the power levels of people

'' takes it a step further to find as'' meaning what? Just asking what you meant there as I assume you mean to get a better handle on a Super form by seeing how the energy is unlocked or something. Anyway yeah Pan never truly went SS in GT she went close to it but never quite