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Originally Posted by DestinySeraphim

You've also got to consider that re-uploading artwork is technically breaking their Terms of Service. Their terms of service state NO REPOSTING. Artists shut down or delete their accounts over this crap. Pixiv is considering blocking Western IPs. I'm not sure you see why posting art without permission is such an issue.

Well, today I learned... So boorus are no good then huh? That's a shame.

Originally Posted by DestinySeraphim

And it's also somewhat against ours. Colbox recently got banned entirely for all the artwork he uploaded that he claimed to have permission, but when one of the moderators inquired of those artists, they had not been asked at all. And maybe some of the artists don't want their artwork on here period...?

I was thinking how YouTube handles copyrighted content... To host it until someone complains.

What do you suggest about our "Pixiv artists" and "Unknown artists" galleries then?

[Ad-Sd-ChibiGirl]

Okay getting off that subject, we have 2 more days till the Thread closes, if anyone has any other suggestions about the sites changes, speak up now.

[Salaam]

Originally Posted by Xero

If your work were edits, and were in the edits section, then they were moved to a hidden category.

If it was a picture, however, that in some form, violated the site's terms, they have probably been deleted. I'm not sure.

Completely original works and one of them showed bare female breasts so I doubt I violated anything, it seems they might have been accidentally deleted or moved to the edits thingimibob. I put them in the unknown artists- female category simply because I had no where else to stick them or at least it seemed the most fitting out of all my unfitting options.

I think my problems are being taken care of though so this post is relatively pointless, oh but perhaps that could be something to draw in new artists. The new artists category was something someone recommended I believe when I skimmed through the posts, this could be good for fully original works from new artists on the site until they receive there own residential artists category. A kind of purgatory.

Ah how ignorant of me, I completely missed the communal gallery and was just informed of it.

[terminator101]

I've had some time to reflect upon some of the unwarranted comments I had made in one of my previous posts (#40) and realize now that I may have offended some of you and/or even hurt your feelings. I hope that you will understand that I was upset at the time and that I had let my feelings get the better of me, instead of first cooling off and then stating my points in a calm, objective manner. I am truly sorry if I have offended you and/or hurt your feelings. I hope that we can put this behind us and move on together to help make DPA a better site for everyone.

I have gone back to the beginning of this thread and reviewed every message up to this point and would like to offer a suggestion which was not suggested previously in this thread that I honestly feel would help to improve this site.

First I'd like to quote Ad-Sd-ChibiGirl's opening message to restate what this thread is about:

Originally Posted by Ad-Sd-ChibiGirl

... Now I want to ask, What needs to be changed? Added, or removed?

Now I can't PROMISE ANYTHING, but I can try and see what can happen. ...

I know that people have been arguing for and against quality control for most of this thread. But let's put that aside momentarily. I would like to suggest another kind of change. Please hear me out.

When I first came here over four years ago, the first thing I noticed was that the gallery consisted of a "mish-mash" of artwork (Finished drawings, CG image manipulations, pages from manga scans, etc.) representing the various genres of DL (ABDL, AR, Diaperfur, S&M BD/spanking, Scat & Pee). Now, I am comfortable with most of these genres so it wasn't a problem for me to see them mixed up together under the same location. The one(s) that I didn't care for (My preferences have changed over time), I ignored for the most part based on their preview pic. However in the back of my mind, I did wonder whether it was wise to have everything mixed up together since I knew that some people would only like one particular genre and may not be as tolerant towards the other genres.

I propose that we divide the gallery into seperate sections each of which would contain artwork representing one of the various genres of DL (ABDL, AR, Diaperfur, S&M BD/spanking, Scat & Pee). In that way, people who are only interested in one particular genre can visit the appropriate section and not have their "sensitivities" harmed by accidently viewing a preview of an image representing artwork from a genre other than what they're interested in or even tolerant of.

Those people who are interested in more than one genre are free to visit the other sections. All of the various subsections will have an essentially empty "Main Gallery" section as their parent node. The "Main Gallery" could have a closed thread stating the rules of the site regarding what kinds of images can be posted in each of the subsections. The header of each subsection could have a description of what kinds of images can be found within.

Although I am not familiar with vBulletin's forum software application (I was never an admin/superuser), I know that the vBulletin software can be configured so that a section of a site can have multiple sub-sections underneath it. So what I just proposed is definitely "do-able"-> https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q...jcQEh6o-xqwH8g

If necessary, we could have subsections within a particular subsection. For example, under the Diaperfur subsection, we could further have two subsections - One for "Full grown" diapered furries and another for "Diapered cubs" (Again, nothing sexually explicit should allowed in the non-full grown subsection). I'm not sure whether the AR subsection should be divided into subsections since most of the images we have usually represent the results of AR - a diapered girl or boy (Again, nothing sexually explicit should be allowed). Since ABDL is self explanatory, I think it doesn't need to be split into subsections. Since there would only be full-grown subjects within, whether or not sexually explicit images are allowed in that subsection should be voted upon in a poll. The S&M BD/spanking subsection and the Scat & Pee subsection may each need to be further split into subsections (If so, then nothing sexually explicit should be allowed in each respective non-full grown subsection). Each subsection should have a mod assigned with permanent subordinate "janitors" to maintain them.

Now with these "structural" changes in place, perhaps "quality control" should be placed back into the hands of each user (That is, let each person decide for themselves whether a picture, as long as it doesn't violate the rules, is good enough or appropriate enough for their own eyes. The chances of a person, who is interested in only one particular genre, of accidently viewing a preview of a picture from another genre that they might not like or even tolerate is greatly reduced as long as they only visit the subsection that interests them. Those that may be interested in or more tolerant of more than one genre already know what they're getting into when they go into other subsections.

Originally Posted by thingywhat

...Why not do this in a more democratic way? Something in lieu of hiding images that get an average score of 5 or lower in the random image pane? In light of the fact that you need to comment to rate an image, you could easily report people abusing this system.

That would remove the disagreements about single-moderator decisions AND allow us to politely put less-than-awesome works in an "Art school" section. ...

I did support the idea having each member decide (via voting) whether a pic should remain or be removed from the gallery but then someone had made a point that actually convinced me that even this was not practical:

Originally Posted by DestinySeraphim

... the whole hiding images that are 5 star and under is extremely stupid because it would mean people would exploit the system, in order to spite an artist and get artwork they don't like hidden. ...

Some intolerant people who may see even an innocent, non-sexually explicit drawing of a diapered girl or boy may exploit the system by screaming in comments "lolicon!" or "shotacon!" and intentionally vote that the drawing be removed from the gallery when it might not be deserving of such a fate. Therefore, I now personally think that we shouldn't have any active "quality control" of any picture.

Again, Arukan said it best:

Originally Posted by Arukan

... If someone does not like the "art" posted, they should choose not to look at it, not to openly whine about it, that is counter-intuitive to our goal. But in the end we MUST do something to ensure that all users, especially those who produce the media so beloved in this community, feel safe and happy with this atmosphere. However, what we must NOT do is to coddle, or over-privilege certain folk and disenfranchise others. While abuse of artists cannot be tolerated, just as ANY abuse must be faced sternly, we cannot offer special treatment to people, that is most important. We are ALL a part of this community. This is supposed to be a place for all of us. ...

BTW - I have never written as much in all of my four years here. I usually like to make positive comments on and favorably rate artwork that I enjoy (Since I would like to see more of such quality pictures being shared) and prefer not to say anything negative about nor rate negatively the ones that I don't like (That's just the kind of person I am). I honestly hope that when all of this is over, each of us can just get back to enjoying the pictures that each of us likes.

[Ad-Sd-ChibiGirl]

Okay Terminator, the Spanking pics with no padding?
I removed those cause there is ALREADY a Spanking Site owned by AI, it's called AnimeOTK.
The site is called Diaperedanime not Scatanime, BDSMAnime, in the main core it's supposed to feature Diapers and that's pretty much it. Now does that mean we can't have a few non Diaper stuff? Not exactly but at the same time it needs to be kept to a minimum.

[RayKamiya]

Terminator, DPA has to change and change is good, when the site came back online many of the progress that was made by mods like Chibi were undone.

many of the pictures that were removed because they do NOT belong here. Like Chibi said this is DIAPERED anime and for the most part, many of the pic that were on here were not AB/DL related.

Many of the pics removed were edit pics made in 10 seconds with no effort in MS paint, this site is to showcase the many talented and budding AB/DL artistes in our community and if we have to do quality control then so be it.

Despite the apology Terminator, you still compared the mods and admins to Nazism, that does not bode well for commenting and voicing your concerns, no one would really take you seriously after a comment like that and many of us may not forgive or forget.

Another suggestion I can make is, get rid of all the Non diapered wetting and scat pics, as well as all the pics of under-aged characters showing genitalia and panties, again DIAPERED anime , if it doesn't have anything to do with the AB/DL fetish then it has no place here.

[drifter32]

I can think on other thing that needs to change. That damn porn website banner that keeps popping up needs to go. If you want this place to be big than you can't have people's computers getting infected with viruses from that damn porn website that latches onto this place.

[terminator101]

Originally Posted by Ad-Sd-ChibiGirl

Okay Terminator, the Spanking pics with no padding?
I removed those cause there is ALREADY a Spanking Site owned by AI, it's called AnimeOTK.
The site is called Diaperedanime not Scatanime, BDSMAnime, in the main core it's supposed to feature Diapers and that's pretty much it. Now does that mean we can't have a few non Diaper stuff? Not exactly but at the same time it needs to be kept to a minimum.

Please do not misunderstand me, Ad-Sd-ChibiGirl. I did not suggest that spanking pics with no padding should be allowed here. I do believe that some people want to see diapered spanking pics (This is based on the pics that are in the gallery). I am neutral to spanking pics. I was just trying to include what some members want to see based on what we have in the gallery. I am aware of AnimeOTK (AI's main site). I agree that this site's main focus should mainly (If not only) feature diaper art. If the scat (Which I am not a fan of but which some people are) pictures are in a diaper shouldn't they belong here (I'm just asking. Not challenging.)? I'm also not a fan of BDSM (But again based on the gallery pics, some people are) but if it features a diapered subject, shouldn't they belong here as well (Again, I'm just asking.)?

Originally Posted by RayKamiya

... Despite the apology Terminator, you still compared the mods and admins to Nazism, that does not bode well for commenting and voicing your concerns, no one would really take you seriously after a comment like that and many of us may not forgive or forget. ...

I actually made that bad comparison to those people who influenced the admins to make the latest change which lead to the removal of the pictures from the gallery, RayKamiya. I did not make that bad comparison to the admins or mods:

Originally Posted by terminator101

... The Admins should not let a few "art *****" dictate what is "quality" and what is not ...

And yes, I realize now that some of the admins may have supported the change themselves. But at the time, that thought did not cross my mind. Either way, I was wrong to have done so. I am sorry. Please forgive me. Yes, I made a big mistake and have come to deeply regret it. All I can say to those people who still bear me a grudge despite my sincere apology is this: "Doesn't everyone deserve a second chance?" I hope that you never have a moment of weakness and make a big mistake. Despite my avatar, I am human and sometimes human beings make mistakes.

[Ad-Sd-ChibiGirl]

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