For a friend, and others that are confused :P

[Corey]

The following is a brief paragraph that has been researched for those many of diaper lovers that begin to expierience confusion from their absolute thrill of seeing others of the same sex in diapers. This was origonally ment for a friend of mine, but I thought that I may as well post it for public viewing.

I have reason to believe that an infantile behavor is the cause of most diaper lovers. This behavior often defined as narcissism.(love for oneself) Narcissim is caused by being withdrawn from social interactions, and the rest of the outside world (such as a baby being spending most of its time in a playen, and not being able to communicate with others.) Male and females aren't just in love with the diaper, they are in love with the look and feel between their legs. This is why most Diaper lovers tend to prefer to see people of the same sex in diapers, its a matter of seeing themself as the subject. Behavor of this kind DOES NOT mean that the person that sees pictures of the same sex in diapers is of homosexual orientation; it just means that the seeker has what most diaper lovers are in possesion of. An very mild case of narcissism. In closing; narcissism is something that all infants are born with, most outgrow it, but some don't.

-Hope that cleared things up for you :P

If you disagree completely please send your thoughts in a PM, I would love to hear your opinions, but I don't really know the next time I'll check out this topic; thank you.

[Baby_junior_ children]

Really thanks for this post! I was a lil' confused about that. This clear my mind. I love to draw and imagine situations where I'm diapered with other imaginary diapered boy. And I play with him touching our diapers and things like that.

Again, really really thank you for this post!^^

[Corey]

Glad I could help, I went through the same confussion myself, so I had to figure out :P

[Tika]

idk if it would call it narcissism but i belive you are right about the association on most case's

[Corey]

Yeah, narcissism is a bit of a harsh word to use for it

[neo]

The psychological development of most infants below the age of 3 (which a vast majority of AB's prefer to act) doesnt really allow the child to understand the difference between self and others so narcissism as you state it is almost already pre programmed.

When a child is that young it is completely dependant on another person to care for them and when someone does not it usually is a threat to their survival (aka if mommy or daddy dosen't pay attention to me all the time I wont get fed or changed and wont survive). Evolution programs this behaviour and the associated pleasures and actions as its a means of survival and an organism who chooses the route of best survival will have pleasure from that. As the child begins to understand they can function more and more normally on their own without requiring another than the narsissitic beaviour subsides.

An adult on the other hand whom is a narcissist chooses at some level to be how he or she is and believes everyone likes them (they know they can survive without constant attention and have no problem doing such). They believe the opposite to a toddler and believe the world cant survive without them regardless of how well their liked or not. Its not as much about love or only concern for oneself (which is selfishness) but a belief that the world is always concerned about their well being and chooses only to function to their benifit. When the world ceases to function they belive the world is off kilter and must be corrected or changed back to status quo.

Social withdrawl and lack of socialization in narsisism is not the world punishing said individual its actually said individual punishing the world (you wont do as I say and benifit me I am punishing you by not being around) rather than lets say somone who has social difficulties and cannot function at all in social situations (whereas narsisists can and do if the requisites are met.)


If narsisism was as you suggest it would show up in the oldest siblings of large families (because of the lack of survival triggering it as it does in toddlers) rather than it being associated with single children or the youngest siblings who were spoiled and developed the beliefs accordingly.

A narcissist could act like a toddler but the survival issues are not there and it would show up through other activities in their life beyond infantilsim so using such a heavy term is a little bit pre-mature and I would have to ask op for his sources. A more narsisistic (pure) point of view would be if they are not toddlers and are not being cared for all the time than the world wouldnt work right and cease to funtion. Not everyone chooses this as a reason for infantilism and such not every infantilist is a narsissist.

I could actually argue that an infantilist would be more neurotic than narsisistic because they belive the slightest negativity is a threat to their survival (much like the toddler) and despite having their needs met accordingly its not enough. So either your source is finding a way to justify that infantilism is wrong or they are not looking at the real developmental and psycholigical differences between the situations.



As for the physical sensations and image relations well one may have a certain projection complex in seeing those of like minded genders as they want themselves to be it doesn't really relate to the socialization and individuality issue (as thats a different mechanism). Its more likely to be about the edibus complex (sexual attraction to a parent or authority figure) than homosexuality like you had argued. The physical sensations of the diaper are exactly as such and in sexual behaviour the reason for such is easily found anatomically and even male toddlers get the same sort of stimulation when they are being changed. Thus you have the causes of this element.

[Corey]

What Im basicaly trying to say, is that people aren't homosexual for looking at the same sex in diapers. There just trying to produce an image of themself in the diaper. I'm sorry, I know the use of that word is a little to ruthless of a title for the love of the feel and sight of the diaper between the legs.

btw I don't believe in evolution one bit

[neo]

Originally Posted by Corey

What Im basicaly trying to say, is that people aren't homosexual for looking at the same sex in diapers. There just trying to produce an image of themself in the diaper. I'm sorry, I know the use of that word is a little to ruthless of a title for the love of the feel and sight of the diaper between the legs.

When a person pushes their own feelings on another (for whatever reason including justification) it is called projection. Essentially this is what you are talking about with image preference nothing more nothing less.

Like I said before even small boys (and maybe girls but I havent seen research) expereince a small bit of sexual stimulation during diapering (the same feelings an adult does). There are physical and anatomical (anatomy) reasons for this that all fetish objects and types do, not just diapers. Its just others are more sensitive for whatever unknown reason to certain objects and items than others.

Diaper lovers are fetishists and use diapers in more fetish like ways as opposed to infantilists who are more enviornmental and situational about it (not just diapers but alot of other things) Other than being related to diapers they are almost completely different constructs.

The only other reason I could see you using that term would be if there were accusations layered against you or the person you wrote this reply to. Hopefully a bit more psychology to fill in your gaps may make the response a bit more coherent and non political.

Originally Posted by Corey

btw I don't believe in evolution one bit

Weither it be ID (intelligent design), developmental milestones, the will to survive or creatures who learned it over time then passed on that trait over time doesnt really matter that is how the mechanism works reguardless of source. If your going to jump on me for one small misplaced word your intent of posting to me seems to have ulterior and quite possibly political motives.

[Baby_junior_ children]

This is a very interesting thread, but the better is that I know now what's happening to me! Again, thank you!

[Rai]

I believe the term is IDENTIFICATION, not narcissism.

I myself enjoy seeing males in diapered situations, because I identify with them and imagine myself in that position.

And it's not something to stress about, having an attraction. Hell, I'm semi-bi, but I prefer to just date women because that's how I like to live. I'm not living a lie, I'm just doing what I want to do.