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Old September 21st, 16, 11:55 AM   #1
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Paragraph breaks

Paragraph breaks seem to have stopped displaying for me in my latest posts, which has a big effect on readability! Is this a temporary problem, a change to how the site posts text, or something just to do with my computer/browser do you think? / As a demonstration, this is typed on a new line in the text box. / As is this. / Thanks for any help!
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Old September 23rd, 16, 01:17 PM   #2
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Paragraph breaks seem to have stopped displaying for me in my latest posts, which has a big effect on readability! ...
Unlike the admins here, I don't have access to the vBulletin system so I can't properly investigate the problem from "Behind the scenes" but maybe I could possibly help you to narrow down the probable causes of your problem, R682. Are you using a separate non-ASCII text editor like MS Word to type your text first and then copying and pasting it into the forum's text editor? If so, perhaps you may be pasting into the forum editor, non printable characters added by a non-ASCII text editor like MS Word -> http://www.howtogeek.com/215425/how-...cters-in-word/. Those non printable characters might not be understood by the forum's text editor and thus might be ignored resulting in the new paragraph break not appearing. Try using a pure ASCII text editor like Notepad instead to do your copying and pasting.

I typed the following text in Notepad then copied and pasted it into the forum's editor:

This is test paragraph one of two. Can you read this before the first paragraph break, R682? I also pressed the "Tab" key in Notepad to format it with an indentation. As you might be able to see, it is working fine for me - If you don't see in this text post that the paragraph break is being displayed then you can definitely see it in the screenshot below. Try using a pure ASCII text editor like Notepad instead to do your copying and pasting. Let me know how it works out for you.

This is test paragraph two of two. Can you read this after the first paragraph break, R682? I also pressed the "Tab" key in Notepad to format it with an indentation. As you might be able to see, it is working fine for me - If you don't see in this text post that the paragraph break is being displayed then you can definitely see it in the screenshot below. Try using a pure ASCII text editor like Notepad instead to do your copying and pasting. Let me know how it works out for you.


If you still can't see any paragraph breaks in any new posts that you now make after copying and pasting text from Notepad into the forum editor then there could be something wrong on your end and not on the site's end (You could then try using another browser (BTW - I use Firefox) but that is just a "Shot in the dark". I hope that this helps!


Here is the screenshot with the paragraph breaks:



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Old September 23rd, 16, 02:31 PM   #3
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Thankyou for your help. It sounds like this is a problem on my end, then, as your post displays fine for me. I'm typing directly into the text boxes here, but paragraph breaks I put in don't seem to be registering. I've never had this problem before, but it's just started a day or so ago. / I'm using a TOR Firefox browser, for anonymity, so I can't really change too easily. I wonder if a recent update to that might be the problem. / I'm going to try a few posts now using the tab key, and pasting from notepad, as you suggest, to see if that helps.

---------- Post added at 02:29 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:28 PM ----------

This is a test post posted from note pad using the tab key. This is a new line.

---------- Post added at 02:31 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:29 PM ----------

No, that doesn't help. I assume you don't see paragraph breaks on my posts? /Like here? (this should be on a new line)
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Old September 23rd, 16, 02:36 PM   #4
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No problemo. Ah, I see that you are using a modded Firefox browser.


Hmm... No I don't see a new line (Paragraph break).

Are you sure you can't just use the standard edition of FireFox (I think that you can still keep TOR installed) to make posts just for this site?
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Old September 23rd, 16, 02:42 PM   #5
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Not that I really know what I'm doing, but just while I'm trying random things, I assume I can't just type my own html paragraph breaks? like this?
Or maybe even...
like this?

---------- Post added at 02:41 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:39 PM ----------

Ooh. It looks like using a 'br' break html tag works. But a 'p' tag doesn't, even though the text box seems to accept it as html code.

---------- Post added at 02:42 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:41 PM ----------

I'll look into it myself, anyway. It looks like it's my problem, not yours, so sorry to bother you!
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Old September 23rd, 16, 02:52 PM   #6
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Hmm... Something weird is happening. I tried adding a line break by using the BBCode tags [br]value[/br] -> https://www.cartographersguild.com/m...p?do=bbcode#br but as you can see, it's not working in vBulletin. Maybe those tags only work in phpBB?


Edit - I see that the HTML line break tag works for you - Cool! And it's no bother at all. I'm happy to be of help (even though you figured it out for yourself)!


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Old September 23rd, 16, 02:56 PM   #7
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It's a bit beyond me, I'm afraid. I only know a tiny bit that I've picked up here and there. I might try reinstalling my browser - but if some things aren't working for you, either, maybe something has recently changed about how the vBulletin works?
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Old September 23rd, 16, 03:12 PM   #8
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It's a bit beyond me, I'm afraid. I only know a tiny bit that I've picked up here and there. ...
It's the same here for me. I'm not a web developer.


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... I might try reinstalling my browser ...
IMHO, that's a sound decision and worth a try.


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... but if some things aren't working for you, either, maybe something has recently changed about how the vBulletin works?
The latest version of vbulletin is v.5.2.4 -> https://www.vbulletin.com/download.php. We're currently using v.3.8.1, so yeah, it's possible that things have changed, generally speaking! But AFAIK, the admins here would not purposely change the way that text is handled by the built-in text editor (It would not make any sense to do so) nor would any official vBulletin update patch or hotfix purposely do so (It would be like suicide for vBulletin to deliberately sabotage their own proprietary product [So as to introduce a totally "new, better product"] - They're not as big as Microsoft [e.g. The Edge browser, the "replacement" for IE, is really a Firefox ripoff!]).
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