Diapered Anime logo

[terminator101]

Hi, all!

I am starting this thread since the original thread "A Little Reminder" -> https://diaperedanime.com/forum/showt...l?goto=newpost was getting off-topic and was closed. I saved my last post just before the thread was closed so I hope that the quote links in this "copy and paste" job will work. I hope that after reading this post, the logo matter will be settled. If you want the logo updated and can work with the other parts of our mixed community then please discuss your opinions:

Originally Posted by kakarot

I'm sorry this snowballed into what it has become. ...

You don't need to apologize to anyone. You were just bringing forth a long standing issue that was overdue for attention.

Originally Posted by kakarot

...My main two responses are these:

The logo change has nothing to do with someone being caught at work or in the public. The mere website name DIAPEREDanime, is enough to cause concern as a url. ...

I realize that this response is directed towards the some of the other posters here, kakarot, and not me since I'm in no way concerned about the SFW factor of our URL. But I'd like to give everyone some honest, friendly advice (Which can be taken or left at each individual's discretion): If you're visiting this site during work then you should stop doing so - No job is worth losing if you're busted by your supervisor for goofing off. If you're doing it at lunch time and even if you're using your own personal smartphone or notebook, you have to realize that the WiFi connection that you're using belongs to the company and they can easily monitor the traffic that is going on to your device. As for the name of the website, there are worse sounding URLs out there like F*ckMeNow (Well, you get the idea) so IMHO, I don't think that it is that big a concern (Also, it would cost Ai money to get the domain name changed, plus I don't think that he would do so anyway!). If you're that worried about it (Speaking to everyone in general) than don't visit this site in public. Wait until you get home to do it.

Originally Posted by kakarot

...Secondly, I was hoping for a logo change for the effect of not giving the wrong idea to current and new members. There are way worse images out there, but a site where members are adults, it would be nice to see a diapered adult, or maybe a chibi baby that looks more cartoony, rather than something like a Japanese Hentai comic.

I was thinking a change would be nice to attract more members to the site since it has owed down from its glory days, and logos change from time to time anyway. Whether it does or doesn't won't effect me from coming to the site, and it's not a sexual thing for me, but we'll see how it goes. ...

I agree with you. There are worse images out there than the clean image that we are using for our current logo. I agree that we should have a diapered adult (I would even like to see a cartoon chibi baby) gracing the top banner as part of an updated logo. Like I said in my previous post (Which I hope that you had carefully read):

Originally Posted by terminator101

... Now, I understand how some members of the other parts of the AB/DL/AR/Furry/BDSM spectrum here might feel long underrepresented by the current logo. Surely DA also represents full grown diaper gals or guys, full grown diaper furries (Including MLPs), diaper cubs (Also MLPs) and diapered characters being bonded and spanked. Not to mention diapered yaoi and diapered yuri characters. I suggest that we update the current logo to include characters from each part of the above mentioned spectrum in addition to keeping the current logo character which represents AR. Now, the AR character does not have to be the center of the "crowd of characters". It could be positioned on the sides if necessary, to appease the long underrepresented members but it definitely should be there as a representative of the AR part of DA! In that way, anyone visiting the site that sees the updated logo will have a better understanding of the vibrant mix of our diapered community. I know that there are some people out here that will not like their representative logo positioned next to the logo representing another part of our mixed community (e.g. - There will be a few people who will not like to see a diapererd yaoi character or a diapered furry character (or diapered MLP) gracing the top of our home page and etc.) But I believe that there are even more open minded people who will embrace this ambitious proposal. ...

In fact, I support you and others like you - As long as your attempts to update the logo do not disenfranchise me or other members like me from enjoying this site. I do not mind if the current logo was updated to include a diapered adult and a diapered chibi and a diapered furry (Including MLP), ... alongside the diapered girl which represents the AR aspect of our forum. If you scroll up to the top, you can see that here is plenty of blank space to the right of our current logo that is available for more characters to share!

Let's pretend for a moment that the current logo is a full grown diapered gal and that it has always been like that since the beginning. Now suppose suddenly that some members from the DL part of our forum complain that the logo is too babyish (Unlike ABDLs and ARs, DLs do not care anything about being babys - They just want to enjoy the prolonged [Hours?] tactile feel of remaining in a used diaper) and that it should be removed and replaced with an adult male character that is not dressed like a baby but in adult clothes and a diaper only because they feel that the current logo is attracting too many babyish people here and giving the DLs outside the wrong impression that this is not a DL (As opposed to an ABDL and AR) friendly forum. Now wouldn't you fight "Tooth and nail" to protect the logo that has long been the symbol of the bastion of ABDL for you? Well, now you know exactly how I feel about all of this.

Originally Posted by kakarot

...I was thinking a change would be nice to attract more members to the site since it has owed down from its glory days, and logos change from time to time anyway. Whether it does or doesn't won't effect me from coming to the site, and it's not a sexual thing for me, but we'll see how it goes. ...

I've been here about three years longer (Since 2008) than you and I can tell you that for the most part, the site has been more or less stable. It hasn't really changed that much as far as I can recall. Sure peeps come and go. I've lost friends and gained new ones through the years and there were exciting moments when popular diaper artists like Carotte, SketchMan and NormalDeviant used to occasionally visit the site and even bad tense moments (I don't want to go into those) and even the temporary closure of DA back in 2012 (I'm glad that we're still here!), so I can safely say that we are still going strong. If anything the glory days are ahead of us after the reopening in 2012. Logos change from time to time - Sure. And I am not totally against change. I am just against change that would affect an aspect of the site that is long familiar and dear to me (Read the above two paragraphs again if necessary).

Originally Posted by kakarot

...I'm not sure if Xero is monitoring the thread to begin with.

I believe that he is monitoring this thread. It is my guess that he is cautiously waiting for more peeps to reply in order to get a better idea of the consensus of the community before he responds.

[Xero]

If I'm gonna be honest, as much as a logo change would be nice, I'm not entirely sure if it's possible. As I stated in the shoutbox, I don't have access to the original file, meaning we'd have to start from scratch - and I certainly don't have any photoshopping skills. Not my level of expertise. Both Ai and myself are quite busy to top it off, so I don't see this being a change that'll happen soon.

However, I would like to monitor this little subject, to see how everyone feels, and to see if anything can be done at some point. Ai also has plans to change the site entirely (at some point...) and we've got plans in place for other business, such as finding other moderators. So... we've got an awful lot on our plate at the moment.

What I'm saying is: don't get your hopes up. I would like a little change (even though I use the work safe header, even at home XD) as much as you would, but if it's not possible, it's not possible. Still though, debate as you will, I'll be watching to see what ideas and projects unfold.

Much love.

[Kitty285]

You can use the "work safe header" if you dont like the default header. the "work safe header" option has saved my ass more than once, and I like it alot more than the default header. :3

[terminator101]

Originally Posted by Xero

If I'm gonna be honest, as much as a logo change would be nice, I'm not entirely sure if it's possible. As I stated in the shoutbox, I don't have access to the original file, meaning we'd have to start from scratch ...

Sometimes if we search too hard for something, we will tend to overlook the fact that what we seek is "right under our nose". The file with its original background can be found in the Kuronegi section of the gallery -> https://diaperedanime.com/gallery/sho...gi-002/cat/563 It is not necessary for us to start from scratch.

Originally Posted by Xero

... - and I certainly don't have any photoshopping skills. Not my level of expertise. ...

Don't feel bad about it. I don't have any skills with Photoshop either but we do have some very accomplished image editors like Bifdaykakes, who know how to use Photoshop layers to assemble collages. Perhaps he can be persuaded to "stitch" the other characters alongside the current character so that all appear together as "One big happy family" (If only we could do that with all the members within our community).


BTW - Perhaps members from the other parts (Specifically those into AB/DL/Furry/BDSM/Yaoi/Yuri) of the spectrum here will attach candidate characters (To possibly represent their aspect of the spectrum) in this thread. When those particular members feel that they have enough candidates to attempt to make a decision, perhaps they can make a poll thread and vote among themselves to decide their final choice of representative character to add to the updated logo.

[Wolfie]

my feelings are its pointless to change that we have setings to shild us from the lols of co workers the work safe header i mean =) but this logo identifes us as what we are besides if your tryn to change outsitders opions youd have to change the laws on the profil/avatar picture of peopole like me cus they are basicly same thing with difrant gender and the profile picture defines as us anmd stricting up the law would make us not compleat im happy to say AI did a vary nice job putn this site together and xero dose nice job maintaing it but the site i feel should have other areas were focus is needed like keeepn teans off and work on ways to spot them another thing id like to change is the 1 acount lawbi feel we should more if we chose to but have them linked (so mods/admin know) but thats off topic

bottom line we should not change the logo

[Koji]

I agree with trevor93. We shouldn't be trying to please outsiders or persons who are age-sensitive to imagery and non-nude materials. It just isn't right and we would need to delete half the website to truly do so. As for making the site safer at work, there is the "work safe header" which may be enabled by going to user control panel and then going to the bottom of the "edit your details" page.

[Kitty285]

I think every thing is fine the way it is, there is no reason to change anything. Making the gallery mobile friendly would be nice, but that's off topic

[Wolfie]

i also want to point out (pretending we do change for a moment) the section they are in would be more favored then the rest of the art peice is tht ab or dl or bdsm bondge lesbian or homosexual would be favored in the art peace so agein the curant logo is still best to represant all fairly its the 1 thing we all have in comon

[Lone_wolf]

Personally I don't mind the banner that is there now. I mean sometimes the work safe version is better for people that don't want others knowing what site they are on. I may not have that problem but I know some do. Honestly I don't mind if the banner was to be changed. I still like how it is now but that is just me.

[terminator101]

Originally Posted by Koji

I agree with trevor93. We shouldn't be trying to please outsiders or persons who are age-sensitive to imagery and non-nude materials. It just isn't right ...

I agree as well, Koji. There are some members here who are confused and believe that the current logo would attract the "wrong crowd" from outside our community to come here. Going by their train of thought, a person could even look at an innocent drawing of a cute puppy or cute kitten and label it as "Bestiality" even though the cute character's privates are not drawn and/or there is no shady character lurking behind somewhere in the drawing ready to pounce on the cute character. As I said before in the "A Little Reminder" thread [I can't directly quote from the other thread now since it is closed but the following is verbatim what I said]:

"...Art is subjective. Different viewers will examine a given artwork and form different opinions about it. For example, people even today have different views about Michelangelo's nude statue of King David - Some say it represents one of the finest art forms of humankind ever created while others say that it is porn because King David's privates are clearly displayed in the open rather than covered with something like a fig leaf..."

Originally Posted by trevor93

i also want to point out (pretending we do change for a moment) the section they are in would be more favored then the rest of the art peice is tht ab or dl or bdsm bondge lesbian or homosexual would be favored in the art peace so agein the curant logo is still best to represant all fairly its the 1 thing we all have in comon

I think I understand what you're trying to say, trevor93. But you have to also remember that some members like Kakarot feel left out since they feel that there is no character in the current logo that represents what they like [See the "A Little Reminder" thread where Kakarot said]:

"...a site where members are adults, it would be nice to see a diapered adult, or maybe a chibi baby ..."

Let me reiterate, I am for change but only if that change does not mean that the cute character in our current logo is removed. There is plenty of empty space on the right side of the current character for other diapered characters (e.g. A diapered adult or a diapered furry, etc.) to occupy. Everyone can be happy. If the members of the other aspects of DA really want change and can accept compromise then shouldn't we work with them as well? I think that this is better than changing the current logo entirely to satisfy some members only to later have other members complain about the new logo. Like Rodney King said "Can't we all get along?"