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Old February 27th, 11, 04:35 AM   #11
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Clearly, it doesn't matter outside of people who have no life, because these are names that mean nothing to a lot of people. Nozomi's got this pretty much down on people who are exposed. Don't sweat it.
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Old February 27th, 11, 04:39 AM   #12
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You know, I find it funny how some in this thread preach how "loving, accepting and awesome" the ABDL community is, and then immediately turn and point fingers at some other fetish minority.

And I quote:
"It's funny how people are ranting about us, yet there are people out there who get off at killing people or watch people being fucked by a horse. THOSE are the ones those haters should be bothering, not us." ~Sami-Chan
"...the way I see it, the ABDL community is BETTER than the non-ABDLs because we're a lot more accepting, a lot kinder, and a lot more fun to be around" ~mewmewpowerfan35

In judging these other minorities, have we not become the alleged "haters" that we have just testified to abhor? Hate comes from ignorance and intolerance; it can only be countered by understanding and acceptance. If we claim to be better than others, or if we judge others for their preferences, we are no better than the people who shit on the ABDLs.
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Old February 27th, 11, 05:05 AM   #13
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Executor, you wouldn't happen to have discovered this ( http://thebigalnetwork.blip.tv/file/4749046/ ) would you?
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Old February 27th, 11, 05:07 AM   #14
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Point proven, thank you Enigma, I was just about to post the same remark.

Everyone had preferences and grievances. The best way to end all of the bull crap is for everyone to stop being in the "superior" mindset and relate it to how you may do things. I agree heavily on the noob standpoint though. Immature and unfit posters shouldn't fuel the fire. They will eventual grow past that stage of resentment and understand that past a screen of interweb madness we are still people doing what we enjoy.

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"Hate breeds hate."
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Old February 27th, 11, 05:25 AM   #15
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You know, I find it funny how some in this thread preach how "loving, accepting and awesome" the ABDL community is, and then immediately turn and point fingers at some other fetish minority.

And I quote:
"It's funny how people are ranting about us, yet there are people out there who get off at killing people or watch people being fucked by a horse. THOSE are the ones those haters should be bothering, not us." ~Sami-Chan
"...the way I see it, the ABDL community is BETTER than the non-ABDLs because we're a lot more accepting, a lot kinder, and a lot more fun to be around" ~mewmewpowerfan35

In judging these other minorities, have we not become the alleged "haters" that we have just testified to abhor? Hate comes from ignorance and intolerance; it can only be countered by understanding and acceptance. If we claim to be better than others, or if we judge others for their preferences, we are no better than the people who shit on the ABDLs.

I'll admit I hold a lot of anger and hate towards the groups that don't except us and make fun and troll us but am I not allowed to feel this way and express my feelings and opinions?

I also dislike the anonmous users that join the bandwagon and escalate things further too.
Hate may create more hate but only if the person who hates the other does something to the one they hate.

All I'm saying is as long as we don't go out of our way to harrass or condem someone we should be able to say how we feel with out starting a flamewar.

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Old February 27th, 11, 05:38 AM   #16
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I'll admit I hold a lot of anger and hate towards the groups that don't except us and make fun and troll us but am I not allowed to feel this way and express my feelings and opinions?

I also dislike the anonmous users that join the bandwagon and escalate things further too.
Hate may create more hate but only if the person who hates the other does something to the one they hate.

All I'm saying is as long as we don't go out of our way to harrass or condem someone we should be able to say how we feel with out starting a flamewar.
No, Mute, that's not what I was saying. You don't have to like or even approve of what some people choose to do - you should, however, keep an open mind about it and not give them grief merely because they made a choice you don't necessarily agree with. After all, they are in the same boat as us; they are a select minority who thinks everyone else is mean and vicious to them for no discernable reason.

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When it comes to people actively hating you or your interests, however, then you do have a right to defend yourself. If you want to speak out against them, then do so! Just remember that you are not the only one who may have those feelings, and definitely don't reciporicate the hate they show to you by ragging on some other group.
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Old February 27th, 11, 05:56 AM   #17
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No, Mute, that's not what I was saying. You don't have to like or even approve of what some people choose to do - you should, however, keep an open mind about it and not give them grief merely because they made a choice you don't necessarily agree with. After all, they are in the same boat as us; they are a select minority who thinks everyone else is mean and vicious to them for no discernable reason.

---------- Post added at 11:38 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:35 PM ----------

When it comes to people actively hating you or your interests, however, then you do have a right to defend yourself. If you want to speak out against them, then do so! Just remember that you are not the only one who may have those feelings, and definitely don't reciporicate the hate they show to you by ragging on some other group.
I'm not quite sure how to answer you since no matter what having emotions about a group seems to make me seem ignorant and lacking openmindedness. I feel like i'm arguing with my ethics professor about kantian philosophy and trying to prove that emotions can back up rational thought. (which was mistake to try and I should have stayed silent)

Anyways enough of my ranting I know that were all people on the internet who think the other might be friend or foe but everyone should be entitled to their opinions and should be able to express themself without the other being hurt.
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Old February 27th, 11, 04:46 PM   #18
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I'm not quite sure how to answer you since no matter what having emotions about a group seems to make me seem ignorant and lacking openmindedness. I feel like i'm arguing with my ethics professor about kantian philosophy and trying to prove that emotions can back up rational thought. (which was mistake to try and I should have stayed silent)

Anyways enough of my ranting I know that were all people on the internet who think the other might be friend or foe but everyone should be entitled to their opinions and should be able to express themself without the other being hurt.
That's the problem, Mute. It's nearly impossible to say anything without somebody being offended. I'm not entirely sure you're getting my point here.

I am not advocating the complete and utter abandonment of opinion. In fact, I urge you to have your own (educated) ones. I do not, however, advocate the direct belittling or hating of another group.

For example, it is okay to say "I dislike this group for "x" reason." It is not okay to say "This group sucks and they should go die. We're totally better than them, let's go scream in their faces about it and call them names!"

There is a difference: one is polite and rational, and the other is hateful and unnecessary.
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Old February 27th, 11, 05:54 PM   #19
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Old February 27th, 11, 09:30 PM   #20
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So what you're saying, The_Enigma, is that we can say/think bad things about others as long as we have a reason to, or is it that we shouldn't say anything at all unless others lash at us first? Or is it both?
Either or, I never completely thought about everything you said in that way. I should apologize, then, about what I said previously.
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