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Old February 8th, 14, 09:56 PM   #11
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Again, fetishes aren't always sexual, yo~!

Also just because something is a fetish doesn't mean it isn't "you just being you". Your fetishes are a part of you, even if they are sexual. They are absolutely 100%, by definition, you being you.
Lastly: sex isn't a fetish, since it's just a natural process. Oral sex could be considered a fetish since that isn't what a mouth is usually used for...


It seems as though you have a different definition of the word "fetish" than most people do. This is important to recognize because it means that you may take things people say the wrong way because they mean something different from what you think they meant...

A fetish is an obsession with something... Often this obsession can be sexual, but it isn't always.
Check this out from Dictionary.com:


Notice the word "or"? If you have a fixation to a certain object, even if it isn't sexual, that can be considered a fetish.
That's why we get people who really like scarves on Pinterest calling their pages "My Scarf Fetish". I am pretty sure they don't have a sexual fetish for scarves, but merely like them a lot.

The problem it is with me and that is it's being over used I will still deny it but if that's what you think go ahead dude.
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Old February 9th, 14, 03:05 AM   #12
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I'm sorry, but this is completely false. 99% of people categorize AB/DLism as just another fetish. We aren't being persecuted or anything like that. We're just another fetish/alternative lifestyle. The difference here is that people just don't want other people's fetishes forced on them. Of course you're going to get some stares if you go out in public dressed like a toddler. To anyone besides us, they would look rediculous. Wouldn't you think a furry walking around in full costume in public was creepy?

AB/DLs can fit in just fine into societies, we've done it for probably hundreds of years. The key is to KEEP THE FETISH TO YOURSELF/YOUR PARTNER. No one cares or wants to know about what you do in the privacy of your own home. If you don't want to get weird looks in public, dress like an adult. Save the baby play for when you're in your own house.
Okay you totally misinterpetted what I said.
I never said that we didn't fit into society, or if I did it was unitentional, it was kinda late when I wrote that
But that wasn't even the original question, it was why people dislike when others wear diapers (pressumingly for non-medical reasons) and it was because it makes us different
If you were basing what you said about europeans seeing the first blacks or native americans, was more of a WTF? Now with people being "more civilized" they just usually shun those of us that do this for fun or attraction because we're weird to them
And yes I'd think someone was weird for wearing a furry costume but thats them
And its not like we're forcing our fetish upon them by doing it publically
Okay, imagine this, you went deep underwater but there was an odd air bubble and there were a people that had to do some odd or illegal thing (like smoke weed, or had to masturbate) to survive, you'd think they were kinda weird at first right? But they aren't forcing their culture on you, right?
Thats all I'm saying
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Old February 9th, 14, 04:56 AM   #13
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Such drama, so opinion, very conversation, wow.

But no seriously. I don't get why the hell people have such an issue with labeling.

"You're taking a single idea and grouping people into that category! You're not taking into account each individual's feelings and ideas!"

Here's where that logic is wrong. Categorizing is an entirely normal human trait. The basis for this goes back to the earliest time of man. Oh, what's this fruit? That guy just ate it and died! It's a BAD fruit! But, what's this other fruit? That guy ate it and he's feeling fine! This is a GOOD fruit!

You see how categorizing is very helpful there?

But, perhaps we can all agree that that is an ancient situation. How about the following, then?

The human brain commonly understands concepts based on association with personal experience. When you know how to play one card game, for example, the basics of that card game are your basis for understanding a different one! When you pick up an FPS, if you've already played another FPS, you likely understand the basic mechanics of how the one you're now playing works.

Thus, when dealing with people, who are ALL individuals, it's difficult to try and create so many subgroups for so many people. I.E: People who like diapers are diaper fetishists. Yes, for a lot of us there's a very platonic, cutesy side to all of this. For some that's the ONLY side of things! For others, of which I am one of them, there's quite a bit of sexual tension involving padding going on. This is what most people are familiar with because it's the MAJORITY of the community. Don't ever tell me otherwise, because I swear to god I've seen a vast majority of this community act and speak of things in a sexual manner rather than not a large percentage of the time.

We need categories to associate concepts. If you're into diapers, I personally see you as a diaper fetishist, whether or not you're sexually into diapers. It's the basic label that society uses for us, and it doesn't at all offend me. If it offends you, you should probably start being less offended.

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Old February 9th, 14, 08:20 AM   #14
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Such drama, so opinion, very conversation, wow.

But no seriously. I don't get why the hell people have such an issue with labeling.

"You're taking a single idea and grouping people into that category! You're not taking into account each individual's feelings and ideas!"

Here's where that logic is wrong. Categorizing is an entirely normal human trait. The basis for this goes back to the earliest time of man. Oh, what's this fruit? That guy just ate it and died! It's a BAD fruit! But, what's this other fruit? That guy ate it and he's feeling fine! This is a GOOD fruit!

You see how categorizing is very helpful there?

But, perhaps we can all agree that that is an ancient situation. How about the following, then?

The human brain commonly understands concepts based on association with personal experience. When you know how to play one card game, for example, the basics of that card game are your basis for understanding a different one! When you pick up an FPS, if you've already played another FPS, you likely understand the basic mechanics of how the one you're now playing works.

Thus, when dealing with people, who are ALL individuals, it's difficult to try and create so many subgroups for so many people. I.E: People who like diapers are diaper fetishists. Yes, for a lot of us there's a very platonic, cutesy side to all of this. For some that's the ONLY side of things! For others, of which I am one of them, there's quite a bit of sexual tension involving padding going on. This is what most people are familiar with because it's the MAJORITY of the community. Don't ever tell me otherwise, because I swear to god I've seen a vast majority of this community act and speak of things in a sexual manner rather than not a large percentage of the time.

We need categories to associate concepts. If you're into diapers, I personally see you as a diaper fetishist, whether or not you're sexually into diapers. It's the basic label that society uses for us, and it doesn't at all offend me. If it offends you, you should probably start being less offended.

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Old February 9th, 14, 10:15 PM   #15
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Such drama, so opinion, very conversation, wow.

But no seriously. I don't get why the hell people have such an issue with labeling.

"You're taking a single idea and grouping people into that category! You're not taking into account each individual's feelings and ideas!"

Here's where that logic is wrong. Categorizing is an entirely normal human trait. The basis for this goes back to the earliest time of man. Oh, what's this fruit? That guy just ate it and died! It's a BAD fruit! But, what's this other fruit? That guy ate it and he's feeling fine! This is a GOOD fruit!

You see how categorizing is very helpful there?

But, perhaps we can all agree that that is an ancient situation. How about the following, then?

The human brain commonly understands concepts based on association with personal experience. When you know how to play one card game, for example, the basics of that card game are your basis for understanding a different one! When you pick up an FPS, if you've already played another FPS, you likely understand the basic mechanics of how the one you're now playing works.

Thus, when dealing with people, who are ALL individuals, it's difficult to try and create so many subgroups for so many people. I.E: People who like diapers are diaper fetishists. Yes, for a lot of us there's a very platonic, cutesy side to all of this. For some that's the ONLY side of things! For others, of which I am one of them, there's quite a bit of sexual tension involving padding going on. This is what most people are familiar with because it's the MAJORITY of the community. Don't ever tell me otherwise, because I swear to god I've seen a vast majority of this community act and speak of things in a sexual manner rather than not a large percentage of the time.

We need categories to associate concepts. If you're into diapers, I personally see you as a diaper fetishist, whether or not you're sexually into diapers. It's the basic label that society uses for us, and it doesn't at all offend me. If it offends you, you should probably start being less offended.

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I pretty much like being stubborn .-. I still don't like labels it makes you feel like a bad person sometimes. Actually can you lock this thread before it becomes an uproar .-. I never should of brought this up XD
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Old February 9th, 14, 10:51 PM   #16
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I pretty much like being stubborn .-. I still don't like labels it makes you feel like a bad person sometimes. Actually can you lock this thread before it becomes an uproar .-. I never should of brought this up XD
I don't think it really needs to be locked actually. Nobody's been being ridiculous, don't worry, I keep a sharp eye out on all active threads, especially these sorts!

You're entitled to your own way of thinking, no hate on that. Personally I disagree, but hey, we're human, that's what we do.
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Old February 10th, 14, 06:29 PM   #17
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Technically, diaper "fetishes" are paraphilias. A paraphilia is sexual attraction to "atypical objects..." as stated in the accompanying link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraphilia
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Old February 12th, 14, 11:12 PM   #18
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Thank you for all your posts! It was a pleasure to read so far, very rich and instructive. Right now I don't feel like I can add anything constructive, but I wanted to let you know that this thread was a good idea. ;-)
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Old February 14th, 14, 04:39 AM   #19
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I think this would fall under stereotypes. People see it as only being about sex because they are from the outside looking in. They never take the time to get to know someone who is into this stuff because they are scared and if/when they do talk to someone into this they talk to a perv who is all about sex.
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